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Crackdown

Okay, this might be of more interest to Rollerbladers but a few of our brothers out there need to pull their pants up. I believe Kilwag is heading to the Great Lakes region this weekend. If he decides to head over to Michigan he might want to pack a belt or maybe some bikini briefs, because underwear visible above the pants is now a crime in Flint Quick we need to make some bumper stickers. 93 days to a year in jail?!

Got this off the Black Label blog.

Discussion

47 thoughts on “Crackdown

  1. LOL! I guess that’s the price paid for being ten years late on a bad style. “got my skateboard… pants sag’n… spray can for the tag’n” the 90’s were lame.

    The fruit booters have to wear the belt that low for safety… it keeps ’em from accidently doing the splits.

  2. So swimsuits count as public indecency right? And same with pants if you don’t wear underwear?

    Thank you Michigan for protecting my eyes from being able to see your lower-most layer of clothing, that is just too close to actually seeing real human.

  3. Guess Im just an old man… but I think it’s funny and isn’t it ridiculous that it came to that!? Pull yer pants up, you look like an idiot.

  4. damienhialation on August 6, 2008 - Reply

    Don’t get me wrong, the style is friggin ridiculous (as are most styles), but the law is even more ridiculous.

    First off, what determines “underwear”? If a copper said, “come here young stud, i can see your man-panties” all i’d have to say is, “no way sir, those are my swimming trunks, i have man panties on under those which is one-hundred percent legal, but thank you for having my safety in mind”. What’s he gonna do, make me take my pants off to prove it? As for the ass-crack bit… Isn’t that just man-cleavage?

  5. enemy combatant on August 6, 2008 - Reply

    Ass cracks as freedom of expression??? What are you, starting up the Nudist Liberation Front or something? Thanks but no thanks. People who think that ought to move to San Francisco where they let the queers run around in public with their schlongs hanging out.

    I’ll take Flint instead any day.

  6. hey enemy come over here “boy” so i can touch your sweet homophobe ass…see “boy” thats the problem with some of you rollerboarders…homophobe jock mindset… so move you ass to flint and go watch you a good football game while drinking coors light and touching your fat wife…

  7. “enemy Combatant” i bet you were the skinhead in high school..

  8. I heard that this fashion was appropriated by hip hop culture from lack of being able to use a belt to keep your pants up prison, or that it is prison code for sexual availability too… http://dmiessler.com/blog/hip-hop-is-gay-the-irony-of-saggy-pants

    Whatever the origin is, that new law is ridiculous. In the UK, a hoodie and baseball cap combo singles you out as an “undesirable” these days too, and will get you banned from certain pub and bar chains.

  9. Any young black male who walks down the street
    Is gonna get stopped by a car full of meat.
    While the girl with the hair
    drives by in her underwear.
    She’s done nothing so far
    to deserve that car.

  10. bailgun on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    good to see the new fascism making bold strides forward in the heartland.

  11. “Underwear Is Not A Crime”

  12. enemy combatant on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    It’s not fascism to expect people to keep their clothes on in public. It’s merely the law. And not just in Flint.

    But go ahead bailgun, take your clothes off in public. You and scum can stage a “nude-in” at Pioneer Courthouse Square!

  13. I think we are missing the real issue here. Flint is in a state of panic due to wide spread broken plumbing, there’s no one to fix the pipes because all the plumbers are in jail for 93 days!

  14. i thought all that low pants stupidity had already passed, i guess not. over here in san jose the g-thang is to wear a wife beater under a famous stars and straps shirt that is 15 sizes too big, and nine out of ten you can still see the “g” is a fat slob. that and a new era hat turned sideways with the tag still attached. a do-rag also might be a nice touch on special occasions, like hanging out at the great mall on a schoolday.

  15. Scare tactics are the best. They’ll never be able to enforce it. The cops in Flint might be able to hassle people over their underwear, but up to a year in jail? Really? When there are rapes and beatings and drug deals and random acts of thievery occuring right this very second? Really?

    If a city has the kind of resources to put anyone in jail for three months to a year over their goddamn undergarments, I’d say that police state has their priorities all wrong.

    And from the types of shit I’ve been seeing on a daily basis, I’m glad the lot of them have underwear at all. If they have a nude-in at the Square, I am going home ill.

  16. Ryan Heckler on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    whatever yall, i prefer to sag a bit than to wear womens pants, all huggin up tight in the crotch, i need room for my nuts hang

  17. If seeing an ass crack or underwear is too much for some to resist, it might be a good idea to move to the Middle east. Those guys have some great laws… in some countries you are ‘protected’ from seeing half the populations face.
    Growing up in Oregon I have been taught some really great skills. I can change the TV channel if I don’t like whats on and I can move my eyeballs if I don’t like what I see. I realize this is not an option for everyone… especially in some parts of our country.

  18. EVEN YOUR MOM SEZ SHUT THE FUCK UP on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    EC, you’re one of the most adamant facists on here so denying it just makes it funnier to the rest of us.

    You agree with the law only because it doesn’t affect you at all. If you were told by the state to dress differently than you do now Im sure it wouldn’t be taken in stride. So bullshit, I call bullshit. Sometimes being annoying can be funny, but they are not mutually exclusive. In other words even though you are always successful at being annoying, you often fail at humor.

    Everyday our civil rights are watered down more and more with bullshit like this, public smoking bans, etc and it’s not helping at all. Its a fucked up law that shouldn’t have made it past public school dress policy.

    Proud Americans should be ashamed at this type of crap as it contradicts the freedom and liberties that we have established in this country and sets us back ten fold.
    This topic probably wont be inspiring any profound discourse here but Greg N had the best insight, I completely agree. ps:sagging is lame too.

  19. Buttocks aren’t a crime.

    Down with fascism.

  20. That is totally irrational to think that EC agrees with the law because it doesn’t affect him. It affects you? The laws are not telling you how to dress, but how not to. If your civil rights are in your underwear, you’ve got more problems than any legal system can handle, brother. I smoke a pack a day and I understand public smoking bans, because it really bothers a lot of people to be faced with cigarette smoke in an area everyone has to use whether they smoke or not. Orderly conduct is a mutual and basic expectation for the public, it is how you and I expect each other to behave without knowing one another. The dis con statuate for Oregon states that you can be charged with disorderly conduct if you are causing a public annoyance; it also has a provision for unreasonable noise, so I guess depending on what you had for lunch that day, it fits…

    It is not a breach of civil liberties. Many people are so out of control and useless on their own behalf that they have to be told what not to do so they actually behave in a somewhat reasonable manner. It’s a waste of energy to get upset or to even equate this as violating your liberties the forefathers gave you. If your whole ass is hanging out of your pants, it can be construed as indecent exposure. The people who get it can avert their eyes, and those who don’t will eventually buy a belt, and everyone can lament the tax dollars wasted on the law. Just pull your pants up and stop being such an idiot, and everything is golden.

  21. i think EC (Eventual Cumdrinker) is a closeted homosexual, most folks who run around saying “queer” are…but that’s his thing and he has a right to do it.

  22. wow…someone has alot of free time on thier hands….

  23. It’s called a government job.

  24. LETS GET READY TOO RAAAAANT on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    Wow, Paige brilliant elaboration, but not really and I completely dissagree with your far right views.

    I will admit you are likely familiar w/state legislature far more than independent thinking.
    Hell, you’re always citing the law and your not even an attorney. Very self serving, and it appears you think of your conformity as badge of maturity. Those who dissagree often arent as educated nor rational as yourself yeah?

    It also takes a big person to stick up for EC, especially since all I’ve ever seen him do is either insult or irritate you, so you are a big person, or big girl,but most already suspected that.

    After all, your initiative and drive has placed you successfully atop the law enforcement chain. what,meter maid?

    When I was a kid, one of my friends mooned some other kid in his front yard and some nosey lady next door called the cops. My friend got an adult size fine and ticket and he wasnt even 10. Not to mention Im sure it shook him up to be confronted by a cop for that. Was there a law broken? Sure.Did someone see a “tooshy”? Yeah, but it was lame then and this is lame now. PICK YOUR BATTLES AND QUIT TRYING TO CONTROL EVERYONE/THING.

    Seriously, ever heard the words “dont worry about it”? Well if it aint the top of your boxers showing, dont worry about it. How many times a week do we see some chicks thong out of the top of her low rise jeans? And theres a law against that? Right,so shut the fuck up. I vote against laws and initiatives I feel are unfair or unecessary but it hasnt made a bit of difference and might not ever, I still utilize my voice and rights.
    When was the last time you voted against something that that worked against the impoverished or minorities?(rhetorical)

    People like you get annoyed so they jump at the chance to cite the law on their side.
    Self rightious Control freaks.

    What I said earlier was completely rational. EC chimes in because he agrees with the law. It doesnt affect him, other then helping him polish his own arguement. If he didnt like it he would be screaming about it on here as w/everything else.
    Completely rational. Pretty obvious even.

    Does it affect me? Well, I sure love skating in public places and alot of non skateboarders have done the legwork and such to defend my right to skate. I dont agree w/Gay marriage. But then, I just wont have one. I dont need to take the right to make that decision from others. It wouldnt make me feel better about myself to take away the right some dink has to sag his pants. Im only daddy to my children, not adults and strangers. It makes me feel better to stand up for all the rights we still have.

    Your “crowd control” ideologies are intrusive and comparable to facism. I dont need a babysitter and I sure as hell dont infringe on others rights, and when you start babysitting people, in any circumstace it just perpetuates negativity and irresposible behavior.
    We really need to work on comprimise more and taking things away from others less, in our country.

    Most here joke about people not being able to sag cause it seems stupid anyway but alot out there feel the same about skateboarding and the laws that restrict us in that regard.

    There isnt enough room on this site for me to explain why i dont believe in our justice/correctional/political systems but lets just agree to get on our boards and shut the fuck up and enjoy riding before this gets any more fucking pointless and retarded.

  25. I probably pretty much hate this site anymore, since no one can say anything aside from “shut the fuck up.” Calling me a fat conformist fascist meter maid ain’t shit, darlin, especially when you don’t know what you’re getting into. I forgot skateboarders were so repressed, and so terribly oppressed, and a dying species. Good thing for you, honey, douchebags still represent a large percentage of the population.

  26. LETS GET READY TOO RAAAAANT on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    And you even pepper your sentences with “honey” “darlin” what are you, “ROSANNE”?

  27. chunkylover69@yahoo on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    I bet you’re just tired of people telling you to shut the fuck up in general. Avoiding this site wont remedy that, but it probably couldnt hurt.

    We would miss your super cool opinions on punk rock icons and fawnings over Johnny Depp and such.
    All that experience and relevant insight into skateboarding you have to offer would be wasted if not posted here. So please stick around and I promise I’ll mind my manners in the future.
    We can have these heated debates at battleground, burnside, peir park and the ramp at pistols, those are your favorite spots too right? Cause you skate and all….right?

  28. Are bare butts a huge problem in Flint? Has ass exposure gone rampant? Has the threat of jail time really become necessary? Jail time?!

    Look, I’d just as soon not see some dudes ass, I wouldn’t mind if a guy sagging that far was asked not to, or even was asked to leave private property, but to have a kid thrown in jail for it goes waaaaay to far. What is Flint a Police state? F that.

    Anyway, lets make sure we debate this here until it is resolved because the Flint Police Department is waiting for our conclusion.

  29. SKATE NAKED!!! WOOO HOOOOO!!! Underwear? Who needs it!

    Rules/laws? Just forget them and go skinny dipping in an empty pool.

  30. enemy combatant on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    “you are always successful at being annoying, you often fail at humor.”

    Well gee, nobody’s perfect man.

    “Proud Americans should be ashamed at this type of crap as it contradicts the freedom and liberties that we have established in this country and sets us back ten fold.”

    That’s the first time I’ve ever heard that exposing you’re butt crack was a constitutionally guaranteed right. What planet are you from anyway? Uranus?

  31. enemy combatant on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    “think EC (Eventual Cumdrinker) is a closeted homosexual, most folks who run around saying

  32. enemy combatant on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    “Your

  33. chunkylover69@yahoo on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    Ha! You guys are totally fucking.

    Thats rad, next time i see you two sweethearts grabbin eachothers tits on a longboard at holly farms, I’ll be sure to sag my levi’s extra low and wiz by with pabst farts.

  34. SAGGY DAVIS JR on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    And what about your rants EC?
    Oh those are cool and healthy im sure you’ve made plenty friends here you’re the champ.
    If you think having no ass or the back of someones jeans drooping is the equivalent to indecent exposure you should hang out with my granny. She’s less of a little pussy and might toughen you up a bit.

  35. I can’t believe this post is such a great discussion starter. Discussions like this make me want to turn off the comments. Three out of four commentators seem to forget the cardinal rule of comments. Come on people!

  36. enemy combatant on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    Holly Farm is too tight for longboards!

  37. That’s what she said!

  38. VulgarDisplayCFH on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    I gotta side with EC. I don’t want to see a guy’s ass. It’s bad enough that I have to sit in seats that have probably been sat on by some kid sagging there swamp ass filled boxers.

  39. bailgun on August 7, 2008 - Reply

    siding with a fascist makes you one, too.

    and you’re siding with a dude whos is not only a fascist, but an ignorant, out of touch mouthbreathing fascit.

  40. enemy combatant on August 8, 2008 - Reply

    “and you

  41. Actually, most people who say

  42. HEY!! its almost time for PAIGE to start wasting taxpayers money!!

  43. kilwag why would you want to turn comments off? this is great..its way better that another one of Conahans frontside airs…..

  44. Scum, you must have a crush on Mark, since you keep bringing him up in the same manner that gradeschool kids tease little girls that they secretly like.

  45. i kinda do have a crush…asians keep their youth longer which is a turn on…

  46. Propinas on August 14, 2008 - Reply

    Thanks Kilswitch. I never Read the small print on HOW TO COMMENT on Skate and annoy. Very insightful. I mean that. Because the first rule is DON’T BE A DICK. And to the best of my knowledge, I’ve been a DicK the whole time… I thought I was annoying or sarcastic, even on occasion I thought I was funny. Everybody, I’m sorry. Yo tengo grande propinas para chica bonita.

  47. will skate for food on August 14, 2008 - Reply

    Great tips for beautiful little girls, eh propinas?
    Haha, mi consejo es si la fecha es de mas de 16 anos,
    impresionar a su burro con un show! adios pendejos!

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