I know it’s highly unusual for Mike V. to be involved with any sort of…drama, but after he kicked Ron Reyes out of the reformed Black Flag while on stage in Australia, and Reyes predicted that Mike V would replace him… two months later Mike V is officially the new singer of Black Flag. Vallely is still managing and speaking for the band, with his usual Mike V / Minisitry of Truth newspeak. Meanwhile Ginn is suing members of Flag as well as Henry Rollins over trademark of the word “Flag” and the Black Flag logo. I seem to recall an interview where Raymond Pettibon claimed he never got paid for any of his artwork that Black Flag used, but I can’t verify that. The new Black Flag has plans to record a new album in 2014, while Flag will likely continue to play the music of Black Flag without all the drama, or worrying about proving they can “be a stronger, more cohesive, tighter band.”
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59 comments
SimonWoodstock
Mike V is an intense guy. I had the pleasure of traveling Europe with him on a small short tour and he had a lot of good encouragement and advice to share. There may be some social baggage there (who doesn’t have that, though?)and he is on the serious side of life, but if it makes anyone feel any better I once ran up to him at a tradeshow while wearing my stuffed animal suit and (much to his chagrin) gave him a big hug. His wife Ann got a pretty good laugh out his grimacing reaction to the whole scenario.
Oh yeah, my point: Whatever might seem strange or even wrong about Mike is made up entirely 110% by his skating. I’ve seen that guy do things at demos and contests that are still pretty unheard of. Also, to last two decades in a pretty crazy industry is commendable as well. Viva la V!
Fitzo Texino
Fuck Mike V.
I don’t care what feel-good bullshit he landed or what convictions he pedaled. He’s a fucking blow-hard, as punk as a shoppimng mall and every bit as self-serving.
surfer
good for Mike. Live the dream dude! NJ all the Way!
Mike V's Dear Old Mum
Even I can watch this. Disgraceful and Distasteful. Michael, come home and ‘slip it in.’
Love,
Mom.
Mike V's Dear Old Mum
Can’t Can’t!. Friggin’ typos. Fix Me!
Brock75
damaged.
Mike V's Dear Old Mum
Someday we’ll all be rich.
egbert
Litigation is so punk rock.
Ronnie
Lawsuit was resolved last October, court ruled against Ginn http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-court-rules-against-greg-ginn-in-black-flag-lawsuit-20131011,0,4793900.story#axzz2s0gtgYlY
FLAG crushes and is totally worth seeing.
yo mama
they should just call the band something else. black flag long and gone.
really if you stand in the middle of of pond and call your self a fish doesn’t mean your a fish .it’s not black flag , just like when ozzy left sabbath . it wasn’t sabbath.
zeno01
Are you sayin’ that Dio couldn’t cut the mustard?
SimonWoodstock
Dio is/was fantastic!! Children of the sea..
yo mama
ah it was not the same band ,
Kilwag
Don’t get me started on Van Hagar…
talentlessquitter
Winner!
SimonWoodstock
The Hagar era wasn’t that bad.. just stadium sports anthem money maker stuff, but that’s America.. Gary Sharone is where Halen dropped the ball..
talentlessquitter
Fair enough, sorry. Hagar was better than 2013 Roth.
houseofneil
Black Flag are officially a bigger joke than the Misfits. And that’s hard.
Geezer
Listening to the Black Brains from their fairly early days made it hard to take Bad Flag seriously back then, but Rise Above actually holds up well when I hear it skating. But then again, that was from after “Takeover of the Pod Person” Numero Uno. For that matter, though, Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were pod people… pod people that ‘saved’ Fleetwood Mac from being the British blues band it had started as in the sixties. So, maybe Black Flag’s second coming of the Pod Person will be their big break, man….
SimonWoodstock
Back to the Black Flag issue proper: Mike V often gets underrated and/or is the default underdog for some reason. Actually, if there is anyone who can pull off a new era of Flag, it’s Vallely..
Kilwag
I don’t know about that. He is already in a band with Ginn, not sure why this would be any better/different. It’s just pandering to people who worship the name “Black Flag” without any real connection. There are 4 times more people from Black Flag in Flag anyway… Gray Flag sounds more appropriate. If Ginn made a mistake pandering to the “old school” connection like Vallely quoted, then don’t even bother to call yourself Black Flag. Hell, even those hippies Jefferson airplane became Jefferson Starship. Mive V as skater.. excellent. Mike V as public spokesman with any sort of credibility, not so much. He’s always the victim somehow. David Lee Roth FOREVER!!!!
SimonWoodstock
I hear ya. I just like Mike and try to be supportive these days. shred the gnar..
Fitzo Texino
Keep the gnar to yourself.
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The “Black Flag issue proper” here IS that Mike is a pod person, in this band, and in fact could be said to be a pod person when it comes to music (the Michael Jordan of baseball). But, hey, his bandmates are mostly pod people anyway, as far as Black Flag goes… but when it comes to pod people and Black Flag, I’ll vote histrionic Henry, cuz at least “they” got Rise Above out of him. (We… Are tired… of… Self… Abuse / Try… To Stop Us / But it’s… no Use!)
art
a hockey jock and a male cat-lady. i’ll pass.
scotto
whiny old “punks”/”skaters”. sickening. its the 21st century gang. time to catch up.
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Catch up to the regressive fidelity of MP3’s? The fact that people this century have settled for such an ersatz fidelity format kinda indicates that there has been precious little new stuff exactly worth hearing. Believe me, most of us would like nothing more than to hear something new, actually worthy of such a lofty century as this one (greatest ever, numerically…), but instead we get really dopey derivatives like dubstep, which you probably think is cutting edge instead of a simplistic regression, cuz you wouldn’t know King Tubby if his echo chamber bit you in the ass. But do tell, if it isn’t dubstep we’re missing. I’ll be the first to thank you, if it’s not actually tired.
Kilwag
Did you do a lot of acid Miller, back in the 60’s?
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I’m not like hippy Miller. I’m straight.
Christiandeath@yahoo.com
When Rollins joined flag a lot of people hated it, if you ask me ginn wants a front man that could beat some ass if he had to…jerzee breeds psychos and Mike v does kill it
K.C.
I wonder if Greg Ginn has tried to sue these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8SQCFmB3mM
SimonWoodstock
DEZ IS BLACK FLAG!!!
brad
Adam and the Ants outlast Black Flag.
houseofneil
well barely Brad. Adam maybe but the real antz are long gone.
And that new Adam and the Ants album was a long, unlistenable mess, kind of like the new Black Flag album actually!
scotto
yes. but, “Black Flag Kills Ants on Contact”. always has, always will. LMFAO
surfer
this is so gay. move on fellas. oooo i said gay.
brad
I loved that new Ants record, it sounded like someone took a computer back to 1880. I thought “Hard Blokes” and that line about “licking the alphabet” were aces…good cover art too. The ode to Vivienne Westwood also got me off.
brad
We know the sticker Scotto that’s why we started talking about it man!
Prickly Pete
This is the part in Spinal Tap when things really get funny. Ginn is the hardcore punk version of the actor who dates too many ladies. Vallely is the latest notch on Ginn’s clear plastic guitar. His days are numbered and it can only get crazier from here. Shoulda stuck with Keith Morris, punk’s Diamond Dave!
Thor
“Ginn is suing members of Flag”, That’s pretty punk rock.
dickhead
The Worst!! Mike VALLEY should be on WWE
surfer
WWE is awesome!
surfer
its cooler to be a wrestler these days and the outfits are way cuter. Surely your old enough to have been called “skater fag!”?
britt
WWE SUCKS
surfer
so does yer mom!
britt
so does your dad
surfer
so does yer greazy greazy grandmom
Bozo Texino
You are an astounding dipshit.
Surfer's Dear old Mum
I am your Mom.
Allyourmothers
Aw, it’s my four favorite S&A simpletons….
surfer
oooh yeah…Black Flag. Nothing is like it used to be. Music, skating, surfing are not the way they were when we first became interested in them. Reflect and know, you experienced it when it was best.
Surfer's Dear old Mum
No you didn’t Surfer. You weren’t there. You were inside playing GI Joe and Star Wars and listening to TIffany. I’m alone Surfer, come home and massage my feet.
Love
Mom.
surfer
im comin ma! keep that ass tight for me!
britt
my mom just passed away last week thanks
Britt's Dear old Mum
No I didn’t. It was just a joke. It turns out we don’t die after all. It keeps going and going and going… Britt we will be together forever.
Love
Mom
surfer
sniff sniff….pfft.
surfer
she didnt huff Black Flag did she?
Duane Peters' Dear old Mum
Apparently, Domestic Violence is the punk rock?
Does SlobAir from Skull and Bones have the answer?
surfer
what do you say to the bitch with 2 black eyes? ….nothin. already told her twice…….aaaah ha MOM!