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	<title>Comments on: More Brotherhood</title>
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	<description>Skateboarding for the disenfranchised</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-133376</link>
		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;david,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kilwag is talking about Ed Benedict in Portland ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david,</p>

<p>Kilwag is talking about Ed Benedict in Portland &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kilwag</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-133364</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilwag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apparently we had some miscommunication. I keep re-reading this post and there's no criticism in it, so I'm not sure where you are coming from.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'll contact you and we'll get it straitened out.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>

<p>Apparently we had some miscommunication. I keep re-reading this post and there&#8217;s no criticism in it, so I&#8217;m not sure where you are coming from.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll contact you and we&#8217;ll get it straitened out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-133320</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Prickly Pete, 
"skarpnäck" is the name of a suburb to stockholm and so there is quite a big difference between a skarpnack and a skatepark... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kilwag, 
with all due respect and thanks for the article, you are obviously not getting the whole picture and regarding the "unsubstantiated rumor" i think you are probably mixing the plaza up with a completely different project in stockholm where they actually had 4 times the final plaza budget and only made drawings and research for about one plaza budget and then the rest of the budget was taken back if i remember it right. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If im right please dont mix the plaza up with that project. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why not ask before you critisize something, you have my mail?.. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And as far as drawing within the budget goes with the plaza... 
The first plaza budget was $0, nothing, so if i designed within the budget we wouldnt have anything at all. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first actual small budget came because i worked for it and showed the city pictures and drawings and that was only $12.000. If i left it at that instead of drawing and working out of the budget we would now have 3 curbs with no asphalt around them. Good idea you think?  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next budget was $24.000.. Next 36.000.. and so on. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In other words, if i didnt keep trying to make it bigger we would have nothing instead of the plaza we have now with 10 curbs and ledges, rails, etcetera. And there is also plenty of reasons why it was mostly curbs and ledges in part 1, but its a long story. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way, publishing that letter sent to you privately might not be that helpful to our cause, I thought that was pretty obvious and trusted you to not make our work harder, so id appreciate if you take it down. Thanks. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;David&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prickly Pete, 
&#8220;skarpnäck&#8221; is the name of a suburb to stockholm and so there is quite a big difference between a skarpnack and a skatepark&#8230; </p>

<p>Kilwag, 
with all due respect and thanks for the article, you are obviously not getting the whole picture and regarding the &#8220;unsubstantiated rumor&#8221; i think you are probably mixing the plaza up with a completely different project in stockholm where they actually had 4 times the final plaza budget and only made drawings and research for about one plaza budget and then the rest of the budget was taken back if i remember it right. </p>

<p>If im right please dont mix the plaza up with that project. Thanks.</p>

<p>Why not ask before you critisize something, you have my mail?.. </p>

<p>And as far as drawing within the budget goes with the plaza&#8230; 
The first plaza budget was $0, nothing, so if i designed within the budget we wouldnt have anything at all. </p>

<p>The first actual small budget came because i worked for it and showed the city pictures and drawings and that was only $12.000. If i left it at that instead of drawing and working out of the budget we would now have 3 curbs with no asphalt around them. Good idea you think?  </p>

<p>Next budget was $24.000.. Next 36.000.. and so on. </p>

<p>In other words, if i didnt keep trying to make it bigger we would have nothing instead of the plaza we have now with 10 curbs and ledges, rails, etcetera. And there is also plenty of reasons why it was mostly curbs and ledges in part 1, but its a long story. </p>

<p>By the way, publishing that letter sent to you privately might not be that helpful to our cause, I thought that was pretty obvious and trusted you to not make our work harder, so id appreciate if you take it down. Thanks. </p>

<p>David</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kvon</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-117676</link>
		<dc:creator>kvon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;waiting for a park sucks. In the WCO we have been trying to get our new park going now for three years, originally they were going to have Grindline do it, now it has been reduced to fun box bank ramps a-la Red Bull Sheckler style... oh well. I guess the kids will dig it... while it lasts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waiting for a park sucks. In the WCO we have been trying to get our new park going now for three years, originally they were going to have Grindline do it, now it has been reduced to fun box bank ramps a-la Red Bull Sheckler style&#8230; oh well. I guess the kids will dig it&#8230; while it lasts.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kilwag</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-117663</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilwag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, seriously, I don't know WTF is going on with that park. The unsubstantiated rumor is that they designed something that was out of the budget and now they are waiting for money... If that's true then I would be pissed if I was waiting for my street plaza. Why not design within the budget? Isn't that part of getting the bid? Hopefully I'm not getting the whole picture.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, seriously, I don&#8217;t know WTF is going on with that park. The unsubstantiated rumor is that they designed something that was out of the budget and now they are waiting for money&#8230; If that&#8217;s true then I would be pissed if I was waiting for my street plaza. Why not design within the budget? Isn&#8217;t that part of getting the bid? Hopefully I&#8217;m not getting the whole picture.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-117659</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ed Benedict needs a greenlight. Or do we need to diy the whole thing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Benedict needs a greenlight. Or do we need to diy the whole thing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Prickly Pete</title>
		<link>http://skateandannoy.com/2008/07/11/more-brotherhood/#comment-117505</link>
		<dc:creator>Prickly Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What's the difference between a skarpnack and a skejtpark?  Whatever, good for those guys for having the tenacity to get the greenlight on building the skarpnack themselves.  Skarp and annoy the bureaucrats til they say ok.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between a skarpnack and a skejtpark?  Whatever, good for those guys for having the tenacity to get the greenlight on building the skarpnack themselves.  Skarp and annoy the bureaucrats til they say ok.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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