Comments on: Jackson Pollock rolls over in his grave and Mark Gonzales is owed some sort of licensing fee. http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/ Skateboarding culture for the disenfranchised Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:29:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: bailgun http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-62521 bailgun Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:08:15 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-62521 <p>attack of the internet tough guys!</p> attack of the internet tough guys!

]]> By: PIG CITY http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-62443 PIG CITY Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:05:56 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-62443 <p>I can't stand this sort o shit. I'm being my usual negative self. But this just winds me up. its not art its an excuse for a few guys to get together and have a laugh. I'd like to see if he's charging money for any of this stuff, then chase him down the road and crash one of his canvases over his bonce.</p> <p>PIGCITY</p> I can’t stand this sort o shit. I’m being my usual negative self. But this just winds me up. its not art its an excuse for a few guys to get together and have a laugh. I’d like to see if he’s charging money for any of this stuff, then chase him down the road and crash one of his canvases over his bonce.

PIGCITY

]]> By: Conahan http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59951 Conahan Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:10:51 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59951 <p>Thanks for the vote of confidence on the cartoons. I think insecurity about that tempts the inner blowhard out every once in a while. I read <em>The Painted Word</em> about 25 years ago when I was writing my Art History thesis for my BA. I spent some time thinking hard about modern art. </p> <p>I think part of what I like about that guy's art project is that it is making fun of all that art criticism and famous art. The rest of his graduating class was probably doing the same sort of thing without the skateboarding.</p> Thanks for the vote of confidence on the cartoons. I think insecurity about that tempts the inner blowhard out every once in a while. I read The Painted Word about 25 years ago when I was writing my Art History thesis for my BA. I spent some time thinking hard about modern art.

I think part of what I like about that guy’s art project is that it is making fun of all that art criticism and famous art. The rest of his graduating class was probably doing the same sort of thing without the skateboarding.

]]> By: enemy combatant http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59919 enemy combatant Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:42:53 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59919 <p>"Self indulgent? Maybe. A good artist will show you something no one else could. How do they come up with something like that? I think so many skaters become artists because they are open to unconventional forms of expression."</p> <p>The trouble is that he <em>isn't</em> showing us something that no one else could. Everyone who has ever painted a wall or fence knows exactly what the effect of just slapping a loaded brush against an object looks like. And anyone who has ever dripped stuff on the floor during a project knows what a Jackson Pollock is: a mess.</p> <p>"he is exploring some of the fundamental issues of making art and the idea of what it is to ride a skateboard. Looks like he’s exploring it on different levels"</p> <p>Art critic BS. I find mistakes made by the highway line sprayer more amusing than this stuff. You really ought to read Tom Wolfe's essay "The Painted Word."</p> <p>There is more art in one of your cartoons than all the Jackson Pollock paintings ever produced (and that unfortunately is a large number.)</p> “Self indulgent? Maybe. A good artist will show you something no one else could. How do they come up with something like that? I think so many skaters become artists because they are open to unconventional forms of expression.”

The trouble is that he isn’t showing us something that no one else could. Everyone who has ever painted a wall or fence knows exactly what the effect of just slapping a loaded brush against an object looks like. And anyone who has ever dripped stuff on the floor during a project knows what a Jackson Pollock is: a mess.

“he is exploring some of the fundamental issues of making art and the idea of what it is to ride a skateboard. Looks like he’s exploring it on different levels”

Art critic BS. I find mistakes made by the highway line sprayer more amusing than this stuff. You really ought to read Tom Wolfe’s essay “The Painted Word.”

There is more art in one of your cartoons than all the Jackson Pollock paintings ever produced (and that unfortunately is a large number.)

]]> By: Conahan http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59909 Conahan Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:17:20 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59909 <p>No, I'd like to hear more about how I really suck. <em>Leave now if you don't want to read an unexplained condemnation.</em></p> No, I’d like to hear more about how I really suck. Leave now if you don’t want to read an unexplained condemnation.

]]> By: ssk http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59883 ssk Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:47:57 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59883 <p>Every layback grind I do is like a Tibetan Buddist mandala, a masterpiece of painstaking detail, style, geometry, and color only visible for a few fleeting moments before it is swept into a pile of sand, a meditation on the fleeting reality that all we see is but an impermanent illusion. </p> <p>How come he didn't ride on the canvas? Duh.</p> Every layback grind I do is like a Tibetan Buddist mandala, a masterpiece of painstaking detail, style, geometry, and color only visible for a few fleeting moments before it is swept into a pile of sand, a meditation on the fleeting reality that all we see is but an impermanent illusion.

How come he didn’t ride on the canvas? Duh.

]]> By: Kilwag http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59876 Kilwag Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:19 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59876 <p>I get that some art is more about the process than the finished piece, and some art is just the process. I don't begrudge this guy any of that. I even like a couple of the paintings. I do question his commitment, especially when other artists take it to higher iterations ( I was going to say Extremes!) This work seems more just like a guy having a good time executing a fun idea. Not "Art" with a capital A.</p> I get that some art is more about the process than the finished piece, and some art is just the process. I don’t begrudge this guy any of that. I even like a couple of the paintings. I do question his commitment, especially when other artists take it to higher iterations ( I was going to say Extremes!) This work seems more just like a guy having a good time executing a fun idea. Not “Art” with a capital A.

]]> By: bailgun http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59727 bailgun Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:31:56 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59727 <p>he has his own commenting guidelines, and they're really simple.</p> <p>step one: troll</p> <p>step two: troll</p> <p>step three: troll</p> <p>step four: make another cup of metamucil.</p> he has his own commenting guidelines, and they’re really simple.

step one: troll

step two: troll

step three: troll

step four: make another cup of metamucil.

]]> By: Kilwag http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59711 Kilwag Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:40:11 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59711 <p>Hey Enemy Combatant, you forgot to consult the <a href="http://skateandannoy.com/2007/08/20/how-not-to-comment-on-skate-and-annoy/" rel="nofollow">commenting guidelines</a>.</p> Hey Enemy Combatant, you forgot to consult the commenting guidelines.

]]> By: enemy combatant http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59708 enemy combatant Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:59:49 +0000 http://skateandannoy.com/2007/11/20/jackson-pollock-rolls-over-in-his-grave-and-mark-gonzales-is-owed-some-sort-of-licensing-fee/#comment-59708 <p>"The guy isn’t doing anything really novel here but he is exploring some of the fundamental issues of making art and the idea of what it is to ride a skateboard. Looks like he’s exploring it on different levels."</p> <p>Stick to sardonic cartoons. As a philosopher and aesthetician you really suck.</p> “The guy isn’t doing anything really novel here but he is exploring some of the fundamental issues of making art and the idea of what it is to ride a skateboard. Looks like he’s exploring it on different levels.”

Stick to sardonic cartoons. As a philosopher and aesthetician you really suck.

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